2023 starts off on a fairly sombre note, with the panel covering the deaths of two Church heavyweights — Pope Benedict for the Church globally and Cardinal George Pell for the Church in Australia and New Zealand (and beyond). The panel reflects on their legacies, which many are saying are mixed. Anna, Don, James and Gavin also discuss pledges from the Church in New Zealand in the area of abuse, the missionaries who died in 2022 while serving the Church and Lionel Messi’s plans for a pilgrimage to thank Our Lady for Argentina winning the Football World Cup.

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