Join me in a conversation with my wise and thoughtful friend JR Harris. He has seen a lot and done a lot of ministry in the name of Jesus. The two potent practices he shares in today’s episode are applicable to every one of us no matter where we wear the hat of Christian Leader in our lives, and critical for us to apply in a time when Christian leaders’ catastrophic falls from grace are on painful display all around us. Bonus: if you’re curious about just what an Air Force chaplain does, JR does a great job of unpacking that role at the beginning of our conversation. Who knows? Maybe God is calling you to explore using your gifts in that context!