As many people battle to maintain mental health, journalist Kevin Osbourn and psychologist Paschal Baute share stories of how they stay sane in an insane world. Kevin talks about going on a backpacking trip with his sons to the Ouachita National Trail in Arkansas last fall. Paschal discusses the importance of reconnecting with family and friends, and why he swims laps three days a week at age 95. They talk about the importance of hobbies, laughter, deep breathing, and getting out of our rooms. Both are staying away from cable news because Paschal says there's no need to give free rent in our minds to bad stuff. They close the show with the power of gratitude. Don't miss this episode on how to keep your head above water.