This week, Stephanie Savell, researcher and co-founder of Brown University's Costs of War Project, joins us to talk about her study of how U.S. military assistance — ostensibly for counterterrorism — has created more terrorists and killed untold more people over the last 20 years. She also talks about how Costs of War became an essential tool for measuring not only the financial toll, but the human destruction left behind in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. In our first segment, Kelley and Dan talk about the new "Global Posture Review" and how the Biden Administration doesn't seem keen on scaling back the military footprint abroad, at all. 

More from Stephanie Savell:

The Costs of United States’ Post-9/11 “Security Assistance”:How Counterterrorism Intensified Conflict in Burkina Faso and Around the World (March 4, 2021)

“The Problem with War: Digital Exclusive Panel” with Jon Stewart (television panelist, October 4, 2021)

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