This episode sees Simon sitting down with Dr Stephen Chavura to discuss his new book (co-authored with Gregory Melleuish) on Sir Robert Menzies. The book, published with Melbourne University Press, is The Forgotten Menzies: The World Picture of Australia's Longest-serving Prime Minister. The episode ranges over scholarship and tropes on Menzies, Menzies' 'cultural puritanism' and philosophical idealism, his mixed legacy, and the influence of Christianity on his political ideals.