Katie Miller launched The Katie Miller Podcast to bring honest conversations to conservative moms. Turns out, it's all fluff talk with guests like Mike Tyson and JD Vance. Katie's husband Stephen Miller built his political career by throwing tantrums on cable news and her ex-bosses have included Elon Musk, Mike Pence and Donald Trump. This show may seem like a cute distraction, but the point of it is far deeper. Journalist Tess Owen joins the conversation this episode.