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Stepping Out and Removing Obstacles to Guide Others to Jesus

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Feeling like God might be calling you forward, but fear, pain, or “staying small” keeps you from stepping through the open gate? This episode with leadership coach Perdeta L. Bush dives into Isaiah 62:10 and invites you to walk through that gate with Jesus—for your restoration and for the sake of others.


Description
In the final episode of her Black History Month series, Angela welcomes Perdeta Bush, founder of PLB Consulting and doctoral student in Organizational Change and Leadership at USC. Together they unpack Isaiah 62:10 as a summons to step out of hiding, embrace your God‑given identity, and become someone who makes it easier for others to find their way back to God.

They talk about the difference between God’s correction and punishment, how we often filter God through our experiences with people, and why we crave opportunity but resist responsibility. Drawing from her own story of loss, transition, and turning 50, Perdeta shares how God told her to “stop hiding,” start making public declarations of His truth, and see fear as a stone to move—not a stop sign. This conversation will encourage you to take one honest, obedient step through the “gate of truth and surrender,” trusting that the Holy Spirit goes with you and will use your story to help someone else get to the other side.

Episode Highlights
  • Angela and Perdeta frame Isaiah 62 as a restoration passage—God renaming, realigning, and publicly restoring His people after loss and delay.
  • They unpack “pass through the gates” as urgent movement language: God calling us out of confinement, through thresholds of access and responsibility.
  • “Build up the highway” and “clear away the stones” become images of discipleship and testimony—clearing obstacles like fear, lies, and old mindsets so others can move toward God.
  • “Raise a banner for the peoples” points to visible, public witness that gathers, signals, and directs people back to Christ.
  • Perdeta shares how God told her to stop hiding, move from private cheerleader to visible obedience, and see fear as a stumbling block to hand to Him, not a reason to quit.
  • They describe the first gate as the “gate of truth and surrender”: telling God the real story, admitting dependence, and taking one concrete step of obedience with the Holy Spirit’s help.
    • Great Quotes
    • “We lose our playfulness, right? ’Cause we think we’re being childish, but we know we’re supposed to be childlike.”
    • “Anytime we engage with God’s Word, it’s gonna require a response. And even if we don’t respond, that’s still a response.”
    • “God is exactly who He says He is, not who we think He is.”
    • “You can’t have one without the other. We love the opportunity, but not the responsibility.”
    • “People have to know not only that you care about them, but you care about their journey.”
    • “God just doesn’t restore you for you. He restores you so you can help prepare the way.”
    • “Gates aren’t crossed with feelings. They’re crossed with steps.”
      • Resources Mentioned
      • Isaiah 62:10.
      • Revelation 12:11.
      • 1 John 4:18.
      • 1 Peter 5:7 (alluded).
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