"If you like doing something, and you feel that it's good, and you're passionate about it, then keep creating your art, because... screw the viewers."

Today we interview Steve Marucci with THATbirdDID, a digital content crew/commercial production company. Steve talks about his love for pizza, alternative comedy, and finding a unique voice.

Long Way Up celebrates the struggle of content creators who are at the bottom and clawing their way to the top. Available as a podcast and on YouTube, and brought to you by MalarkeyTV.com