If you want to see Self Determination in action, this is the episode you need! Today you’ll meet Steve Ober, who works at the University of Cincinnati. Steve also invited his brother, Patrick (who’s been on the podcast once already!), and his mom, Karen, to our interview. Steve, Patrick, and Karen model Self Determination as we learn about Steve’s experiences in employment, independent living, transportation, and more. This episode will pull you closer to tools needed to drive Self Determination, including systems of support in families, work places, communities, homes, and more!