Johnny and Reef sit down with author Steve Sheinkin to talk about his book Undefeated, about perhaps the most remarkable team in college football history, the Carlisle Indians. Coached by the legendary Pop Warner, in 1907, a young man named Jim Thorpe joined the team, and a new era in college football was born. In fact, many say it was unveiled right here in Philadelphia, at Franklin Field, on October 26th, 1907. The lightly regarded Carlisle Indians came to Philly to take on the powerful Penn Quakers, and unveiled a new look: the single wing offense, similar to today's wildcat. Confounded by a team that was actually utilizing the forward pass, Penn was crushed by the underdogs, 28-6, and a new era in football was born. We talk to Steve about that game, about Pop Warner and Thorpe's relationship, and about the racist obstacles Thorpe faced in his playing days. It's a great chat about one of hte most remarkable figures in American sports history. If you enjoy it, please leave us a review and a 5 star rating!