Steve Shingler, Ealing Trailfinders club captain, joins the podcast after he and fellow Championship player Craig Willis helped out at training to explain what he put the squad through and how they responded.

He also talked about his coaching ambitions, the visit of Leicester Tigers in the Premiership Cup on 18 February, and how the Championship season is unfolding.

We also hear from head coach Dave Brathwaite, who explains how the club are being helped by the pros, and how that relationship will develop over the season.

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