Steve Thompson takes us through how empathy, and progress vs. perfection has lasting results on fitness.  I always knew this cat was deep and thoughtful, and this conversation absolutely reinforced that. 

Starting with Steve's Facebook post on changing how he felt rather than how he looked - we dive into being empathetic with himself, and how he takes care of his clients, to better people outside the gym.

Steve takes me through how to build a personal castle, not demonizing anything - especially food and drink - changing habits with baby steps, removing opportunities, and the myth of motivation.

Take a look at Steve's post and pics here.