Steven McKie, general partner at Amentum Capital and host of Blockchannel podcast joins the show to talk about Ethereum. Steven has been in the blockchain space for many years and has a good perspective on where Ethereum has been and where it's going. We talk about the future gig economy, the state of Layer 2 solutions, governance, the emergence of DAOs, the current state of DeFi and the narrative wars between Bitcoin and Ethereum.