<p>Steve talks with Scott Strode, founder of a national sober community,  <a href="http://www.thephoenix.org/">www.ThePhoenix.Org</a> and author of <a href="https://amzn.to/44Mqxbx">Rise. Recover. Thrive.: How I Got Strong, Got Sober, and Built a Movement of Hope</a>.</p>

Steve talks with Scott Strode, founder of a national sober community, www.ThePhoenix.Org and author of Rise. Recover. Thrive.: How I Got Strong, Got Sober, and Built a Movement of Hope.

<p>Steve talks with Scott Strode, founder of a national sober community,&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://www.thephoenix.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer">www.ThePhoenix.Org</a>&nbsp;and author of&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/44Mqxbx" rel="noopener noreferrer">Rise. Recover. Thrive.: How I Got Strong, Got Sober, and Built a Movement of Hope</a>.</p>

Steven Spierer, 12/13/25

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