This text is an interview with French philosopher Bernard Stiegler, conducted by Pieter Lemmens. Stiegler discusses the relationship between humans and technology, arguing that they are inseparable. He critiques contemporary capitalist society for causing a "generalized proletarianization," where individuals lose knowledge and "know-how" (savoir-faire) and are reduced to consumers. Stiegler suggests that this exploitation of human cognition through technology leads to a destruction of desire and the joy of life. Despite this bleak outlook, Stiegler expresses hope that digital networks can foster a new "society of contribution" based on open-source and peer-to-peer models, offering a path toward "de-proletarianization." He sees a "battle for the mind" where philosophy must engage with technology to cultivate new forms of consciousness and resist the degradation of human existence.

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Lemmens, Pieter. “‘This System Does Not Produce Pleasure Anymore’ an Interview with Bernard Stiegler.” Krisis: Journal for Contemporary Philosophy, no. 1 (2011): 33–37.

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