In this episode of Still Unbelievable, Matthew chats with Liz Charlotte Grant. Liz's book, Knock at the Sky is recommended for anyone who considers themself a doubter, questioner or deconstructor. It is a book that will bring a new perspective to female characters in genesis. We appreciated Liz's book and found her witty and engaging to converse with. We have no doubt you will enjoy this conversation. As always, links to topics we raise are in the show notes, including links to Liz's website and where to buy her book.

1) Liz Charlotte Grant

https://lizcharlotte.com/about

2) Pre order the book

https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/knock-at-the-sky-liz-charlotte-grant/1146133120

3) Almost Heretical

Listen to Liz on almost Heretical podcast

https://almostheretical.com/liz-charlotte-grant/

4) Abraham's Excellent Adventure

An alternative version of the Abraham and Issac story, not the one mentioned by Matthew in the episode, but still an interesting retelling.

https://www.patreon.com/posts/abrahams-2735409

5) Toxic Empathy

https://www.wikihow.com/Toxic-Empathy

6) The Empathy List

https://www.thempathylist.com/

7) The Binding of Isaac

https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/the-binding-of-isaac/

8) Why the Midrash Has Abraham Thrown into Nimrod’s Furnace

https://www.thetorah.com/article/why-the-midrash-has-abraham-thrown-into-nimrods-furnace

9) nimrod vs abraham

https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/112333/jewish/Nimrod-and-Abraham.htm

10) Abrahams birth and back story

https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/246612/jewish/Abraham.htm

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In this episode of Still Unbelievable, Matthew interviews Sarah Bacaller. This is an exciting episode because it is the first official episode celebrating the launch of the book Apostate. Sarah has organised 21 different people who each recount some of their recovery from Christianity. There will be more episodes that discuss the book, including interviews with contributors. To buy the book, see link 1 in the show notes, Sarah's book, Fault Lines, that she mentions, is link 2.

1) Apostate

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DPNBSCBG

2) Sarah's Book - The Fault Lines Founding Liberty

https://www.perlego.com/book/1977416/the-fault-lines-founding-liberty-pdf?campaignid=436530068&adgroupid=1353500616599525&msclkid=cff54170bda812b8672e26162d4c6361

3) The Stacie's Mom Podcast - Apostate: Deconversion Stories with Sarah & Phil

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5e6HJq2W-0

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In this episode Matthew comments on a two part series of Christians talking about deconversion.

It really is as bad as you think it will be, and is one reason why Christians are spending far too much time talking and not enough time paying attention. The episodes are from the Apologetics Radio show and were published in 2021.

1) the original episodes

https://apologetics.com/deconversion/

https://apologetics.com/deconversion-part-2/

Apple podcast links

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/deconversion/id91466394?i=1000529383652

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/deconversion-part-2/id91466394?i=1000536435151

2) BIOLA

https://apologetics.com/author/jnoyes/

3) Jon Noyes

https://www.biola.edu/about/theological-positions?_gl=1*1qzn87w*_gcl_au*MjAzNTQ5MTgxNC4xNzMwNjI0NjA4*_ga*MTA3Nzc3MTE2OC4xNzIwODg2NTIw*_ga_YFBWBXLQJ7*MTczMDYyNDYwNy4zLjEuMTczMDYyNDcyOS4zNi4wLjA.

4) Deconstructionism

https://www.philosophybasics.com/movements_deconstructionism.html

5) Jon Steingard

https://open.spotify.com/episode/4BTWDakXuxtb8CaMTgzDSb

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Apologist Vince Vitale did a review of a Free Will debate, see the link no 1 in the show notes. The original debate is at link 2. Matthew reviews Vince's review because there are some Christian justifications for free will that simply do not make any sense.

1)

https://www.premier.plus/unbelievable/podcasts/episodes/christian-philosopher-vince-vitale-stunned-by-free-will-showdown-alex-oconnor-vs-alex-carter

2)

https://www.premierunbelievable.com/unbelievable/free-will-vs-determinism-whos-really-in-controlalex-oconnor-vs-prof-alex-carter-hosted-by-ruth-jackson/18133.article

3) Foiling

https://www.surfertoday.com/surfing/the-beginners-guide-to-foil-surfing

4) EAAN

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_argument_against_naturalism

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In this episode of Still Unbelievable! David from Skeptics and Seekers joins Matthew to discuss, and answer, 3 questions that Cameron Bertuzzi posted onto his Capturing Christianity channel. We're unimpressed by these questions because we think they reveal an attempt to trap atheists into a specific answer, and as such they are not good faith questions. This is why our discussion of the questions run to an hour. This is the edited audio of a video David and Matthew recorded, to see the full unedited video see the links in the show notes. The link to the original questions video is also in the show notes, along with the full text of the questions.

The Questions:

1) do you believe that our beliefs ought to be proportioned to the evidence?

2) if we could verify that a miracle occurred, is that good reason to think god exists?

3) if you're an atheist and you said yes to no1. and you think we have a way of verifying that miracles exists. How many of the millions of claims have you deeply investigated?

1) original video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WK3ArZ1r4bs

2) skeptics and seekers

https://skepticsandseekers.squarespace.com/

https://www.youtube.com/@skepticsandseekers4715

3) The video version of this audio content

https://youtu.be/_0E8W3Srdtk

4) Sai Baba

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sai_Baba_of_Shirdi

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Episode 122 Bekah McNeel - This Is Going To Hurt

In this episode of Still Unbelievable! We welcome back Bekah McNeel. Bekah is a journalist and author. We interviewed Bekah for her first book, Bringing Up Kids when Church Lets You Down in Episode 91, see link in the show notes. In this episode Matthew talks with Bekah about her next book, This is Going to Hurt: Following Jesus in a Divided America. See the show notes for more on Bekah and her books. We enjoyed having Bekah as a guest, we find her insightful and compassionate, we hope you enjoy this episode as much as Matthew enjoyed the conversation.

1) Bekah McNeel

https://bekahmcneel.com/about/

2) Buy Bekah's Books

https://bekahmcneel.com/book/

3) Bekah on Still Unbelievable! in March 2023

https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/still-unbelievable/episodes/Episode-91---Bringing-Up-Kids-When-Church-Lets-You-Down-e1vsm9j

4) Bekah on Sojourners

https://sojo.net/biography/bekah-mcneel

5) Antinomianism

https://slife.org/antinomianism/

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In this episode David and Matthew continue our series telling our stories by recounting our early school years. Andrew was unable to join us for this recording, but we will be catching up with him soon.

1) Part 1 - episode 117

https://spotifyanchor-web.app.link/e/8E4Lwigq8Lb

2) ACE

https://www.christian.education/ace

3) Matthew discusses the kidnapping event

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiLK1Oi_TCw&t=5226s

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In this episode Matthew reviews a Christian podcast which attempts to address the problem of God's hiddenness. But as you're about to hear, it descends into predictable chest beating victim blaming. This is Christian apologetics at it's utter worst. Rather than explain why god is justified in being hidden from you, this podcast tediously explains why it's all your fault for being a shitty person. And with that spoiler out the way, lets get started and have some fun. The podcast is called Christianity still makes sense and Link 1 goes to the original episode.

1) the youtube original

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BimiC1FPySA&list=PLtO-GFhq5vCCxmrSwF4D96sMfBq3WuD48&index=3

2) Tim on Still Unbelievable!

https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/still-unbelievable/episodes/Episode-72---Matthew-in-Conversation-with-Christian-Tim-Hull-e1el7s0

3) John L. Schellenberg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._L._Schellenberg

4) Freedom from religion

https://ffrf.org/

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In this episode of Still Unbelievable! Matthew comments on an episode of the Worldview Legacy podcast which argues that science and Christian faith do not conflict. The podcast host is Joel Settecase, who we have featured in a previous commentary episode. We take the view that there are claims in Christianity that are not scientifically defendable and that means that there are areas of conflict. For example, ask a Christian what scientific test you can do to confirm the existence of their god. When the Christian avoids a direct answer, it is them who is creating that conflict, not me and not science. Link 1 goes to the original episode.

1) The original episode

https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/worldviewlegacy/episodes/19-Why-I-Believe-Science-and-Christianity-Dont-Conflict-e1o4iit/a-a8ie63n

2) Pew research on science and faith in conflict

https://www.pewresearch.org/science/2015/10/22/perception-of-conflict-between-science-and-religion/#:~:text=The%20new%20Pew%20Research%20Center%20findings%20show%20that,consider%20science%20and%20religion%20to%20be%20mostly%20compatible.

3) 3 laws of logic

https://www.cambridgeskeptics.org.uk/a-brief-guide-to-logic-the-3-laws

https://jamesbishopblog.com/2018/06/21/what-are-the-laws-of-logic/

4) The Principles of Mathematics

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Principles_of_Mathematics

5) Scientific laws

https://science.howstuffworks.com/innovation/scientific-experiments/10-scientific-laws-theories.htm

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/laws-of-nature/

6) the Scientific Method

https://www.sciencebuddies.org/science-fair-projects/science-fair/steps-of-the-scientific-method

7) Inductive and deductive reasoning

https://www.scribbr.com/methodology/inductive-reasoning/

https://www.scribbr.com/methodology/deductive-reasoning/

8) EAAN

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_argument_against_naturalism

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11098-007-9155-3

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11153-022-09832-3

9) Darwin's Letter To William Graham 3 July 1881

https://www.darwinproject.ac.uk/letter/DCP-LETT-13230.xml

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In this Episode Matthew will address statements made in an episode promoting Young Earth Creationism, see link 1. The podcast is Macrophage Strategy and the host, Ben, did appear on Still Unbelievable! in episode 86, see link 2. Ben does make reference to some specific scientific ideas in his episode, and in each case there will be links, so please do make use of them when doing your own checking. The bottom line is this, Ben's points are understandable but fatally flawed and display how fundamentalist mindsets harm our ability to think critically. Young earth creationism makes terrible assumptions about our world and this is why the four reasons Ben presents are very bad reasons to be a YEC.

1) original episode

https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/macrophagestrategy/episodes/Ep--2---Four-Reasons-to-be-YEC-e1h0o2u

2) Ben on Still Unbelievable!

https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/still-unbelievable/episodes/Episode-86---In-conversation-with-A-Young-Earth-Creationist-e1sdcp8

3) Archimedes destroyed the Roman fleet at the siege of Syracuse

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/0143-0807/13/6/004/meta

https://www.historynet.com/the-siege-of-syracuse-a-roman-general-vs-a-greek-genius/

4) Kim dynasty myths

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/top-10-myths-north-koreans-are-told-about-leader-kim-jong-un/HW4M2UQJJWWJ4GCECDHGEHJ33I/

5) Contradictions in Resurrection and Ascension

https://www.learnreligions.com/jesus-resurrection-and-ascension-contradictions-250145

6) Two books

https://scriptureandscience.museumofthebible.org/gods-two-books

7) Hermeneutics

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/hermeneutics/

https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/abs/understanding-hermeneutics/introduction-what-is-hermeneutics/FB1290B7101F13F9EED6DE7F4A15B5EC

https://academic.oup.com/book/740/chapter-abstract/135397603?redirectedFrom=fulltext

https://www.oxfordbibliographies.com/display/document/obo-9780190221911/obo-9780190221911-0125.xml

8) Understanding context and intention

https://philosophy.institute/epistemology/introduction-hermeneutics-art-interpretation/#:~:text=One%20of%20the%20central%20tenets%20of%20hermeneutics%20is,broader%20circumstances%20in%20which%20a%20text%20was%20created.

9) Eisegesis

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eisegesis

10) Context of Genesis 1

https://bible.org/seriespage/1-analysis-and-synthesis-genesis

https://www.publicchristianity.org/the-purpose-of-genesis-1-an-historical-approach/

11) Standard model and Special Relativity

https://atomparticles.com/why-is-the-standard-model-incompatible-with-general-relativity/

https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsta.2015.0260

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