Our first guests will be Ilse and Mark of stinkin'-thinkin'--an AA deprogramming blog.
  
 Our second guest is Liz Michael of Moder8, a program for people who wish to moderate their drinking.

Our first guests will be Ilse and Mark of stinkin'-thinkin'--an AA deprogramming blog. Our second guest is Liz Michael of Moder8, a program for people who wish to moderate their drinking.

Our first guests will be Ilse and Mark of stinkin'-thinkin'--an AA deprogramming blog.
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 Our second guest is Liz Michael of Moder8, a program for people who wish to moderate their drinking.

Stinkin Thinkin - Moder8

This series interviews experts in the addictions field, with a focus on evidence-based, cutting-edge approaches to substance abuse problems such as: Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT), pharmacotherapy, harm reduction, and many, many more. Your host Kenneth Anderson is the founder and CEO of The HAMS Harm Reduction Network and the author of "How to Change Your Drinking: a Harm Reduction Guide to Alcohol."

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