Branding isn’t about becoming someone else who makes money.

It’s about being someone who can hold it.

In this conversation, Natalie and Renee Carbone Fleming break down the real reason so many women feel disconnected in their business... even when things are “working.”

They explore:

• Why building from strategy without center creates instability
• The difference between performing a brand vs. being it
• How midlife reinvention forces you back into your real identity
• Why AI can replicate intellect... but never your intelligence
• And how aligning with who you actually are changes how money, clients, and opportunities show up

Renee shares her journey through loss, reinvention, and building the Badass Queen movement... along with her mission to help women create their “f*ck it fund” and stop shrinking in their lives and work.

This isn’t about fixing your brand.
It’s about building one that can actually hold you.

If this conversation hit something for you…

You can step into Renee’s world here

Inside, you’ll find trainings, tools, and resources to help you build confidence, create income, and design a life you’re actually obsessed with... without shrinking, explaining, or holding yourself back.