Abbot Ankido Sipo and Fr. Christopher Somo tackle one of the most misunderstood topics in Catholic life: suffering. From medieval extremes and the Albigensian heresy to modern “offer-it-up” clichés, they pull the popular myths apart and reveal the Church’s real teaching on redemptive suffering, compassion, and true holiness. Whether you’re walking through grief, wrestling with chronic pain, or just wondering how the Cross fits into everyday frustrations, this conversation will ground you in hope and give you practical steps to “go through, not around” life’s trials.