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Stop Playing Church - Todd Wagner - The MakeReady Podcast #33


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In this episode of the MakeReady Podcast, we welcome back Todd Wagner—pastor, teacher, author, and founder of Watermark Community Church—for a conversation about discipleship, leadership, and what it really means to follow Jesus in a culture that constantly pulls us in other directions.

For decades, Todd has challenged people to move beyond casual Christianity and embrace a faith that transforms every area of life. His message is simple but demanding: Jesus didn't call us to attend church—He called us to make disciples.

This conversation explores the state of the modern church, the dangers of consumer Christianity, the importance of biblical community, and why spiritual growth was never meant to happen alone. We discuss raising families that love the Lord, investing in the next generation, building authentic relationships, and how ordinary believers can have an extraordinary impact when they intentionally help others follow Christ.

Whether you're leading in your home, serving in your church, or simply seeking to grow deeper in your faith, this episode will challenge you to think differently about discipleship and encourage you to live with greater purpose and conviction.

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00:00 Stop Playing Church

01:02 Todd Wagner
02:09 Grandparenting
03:52 Building a Multi-Generational Legacy
08:40 Christianity Is Not a Solo Sport
14:59 What Most People Get Wrong About Church
16:40 You Don't Go to Church
18:02 The Family's First Mission
21:00 The Missing Piece of Discipleship
31:30 When Leaders Get Better
32:11 Depth Over Breadth
39:55 Leaders vs. Managers
46:55 The Problem With Celebrity Christianity
47:24 Clowns Entertaining Goats
58:07 Guardrails for a Godly Life
01:00:16 Finding the Right Men
01:03:00 Final Thoughts

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