Leader2Leader with Tom Athenour

Stop Rescuing, Start Coaching


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In this conversation, Tom Athenour and Donna Zajonc explore the integration of psychology and business through the lens of the Empowerment Dynamic framework. They discuss the Drama Triangle, which includes the roles of Victim, Rescuer, and Persecutor, and how these roles manifest in workplace dynamics. Donna emphasizes the importance of shifting from a Rescuer mindset to a Coaching approach, encouraging leaders to empower their teams rather than take over responsibilities.

The discussion also highlights the significance of self-observation, intention, and the difference between problem-focused and outcome-focused thinking in leadership. Donna shares insights on the legacy of her late husband and co-founder, David Emerald, and the ongoing work that the center is doing worldwide to promote the Empowerment Dynamic in various organizational settings.

My Key Takeaways

  • The speed of life is increasing, leading to more stress and anxiety.
  • The Drama Triangle consists of the Victim, Rescuer, and Persecutor roles.
  • Shifting from Rescuer to Coach empowers others to take responsibility.
  • Self-observation is key to recognizing our roles in the Drama Triangle.
  • Leaders should focus on outcomes (what they want) rather than just problems.
  • Understanding intention can help shift from controlling to encouraging behaviors.
  • The Empowerment Dynamic promotes creativity and agency in individuals.
  • Recognizing triggers can help prevent falling into reactive roles.
  • The legacy of David Womeldorf continues to inspire the work in the Empowerment Dynamic.
  • Creating a world that works for all is the ultimate goal of this framework.

Contact Information:

Donna Zajonc LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/donna-zajonc-mcc-612455/

Books by Donna Zajonc and David Emerald

  • The Power of TED*: The Empowerment Dynamic: 10th Anniversary Edition
  • 3 Vital Questions: Transforming Workplace Drama
  • Who Do You Want to Be on the Way to What You Want?: Coaching with the Empowerment Dynamic

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Tom Athenour: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomathenour/

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