More Good Drinks - Industry Podcast

Stop the Copy & Paste, For True Innovation in Drinks


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Rethinking Innovation and Authenticity in the Drinks Industry with Mikey Ball

Dive into a compelling conversation with Mikey Ball, a product development expert at Woodward Street Distillery, as we explore what genuine innovation really means in the drinks industry. Discover how ancient techniques, authenticity, and storytelling shape truly original products, and learn practical insights on navigating the balance between tradition and modernity.

In this episode:

The difference between copying techniques and building original flavours

How ancient traditions inform innovative product development

The importance of deep foundational knowledge and context

Recognising the role of storytelling and narrative in product positioning

Examples of misleading terms such as "ultrasonic distillation"

Authenticity as a marker of genuine innovation

Practical approaches for elevating industry standards and consumer experiences

The parallels between product creation behind the bar and in distilleries

How to embed culture, technique, and authenticity into branding and packaging

Insights into navigating market demands and consumer perceptions

Future-focused topics: water sourcing, mineral analysis, and regional identity

Timestamps:

00:00 - Opening thoughts on what constitutes true innovation in drinks

02:26 - Mikey shares insights on building flavor through ancient techniques

03:35 - Deep dive into question everything approach in product development

05:03 - The pitfalls of superficial innovation and copycat culture

07:12 - Clarifying misleading terminology like ultrasonic distillation

09:12 - Authenticity versus superficial branding in industry claims

11:19 - The importance of understanding ingredients and processes

13:23 - The thin line between inspiration, learning, and recipe copying

16:35 - The ongoing nature of product refinement and consistency challenges

18:03 - Connecting product stories with consumer perceptions

20:04 - The importance of visual branding and market positioning

22:20 - Embracing continuous learning and innovation as a mindset

24:37 - The influence of tradition, culture, and regional identity

27:03 - The story behind Chi Chi Vodka and its approach to authenticity

30:36 - Navigating market demands and product differentiation

32:17 - The role of narrative in brand building and consumer connection

34:27 - How storytelling enhances product experience in hospitality

37:42 - The power of simplicity and core technique in a saturated market

40:49 - Envisioning a future where hospitality deeply values understanding

45:11 - Upcoming workshops on carbonation, liquids, and innovation tools

48:02 - Exploring water sourcing and mineral profiles in New Zealand

Resources & Links:

Woodward Street Distillery

Chi Chi Vodka

Connect with Mikey Ball:

[email protected]



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