When conservationist Sacha Dench was asked to look into the decline of the Bewick’s swan, she faced a problem – how to get engagement from industry, and members of the public? The key Sacha found was storytelling.

Sacha – AKA “the human swan” – is the co-founder and CEO of Conservation Without Borders and a UN ambassador for migratory species. In her discussion with Julia, Sacha sets out the need for environmental NGOs to collaborate more, for people to come to an agreement making one party wrong, and sets out her style of regenerative leadership.

Content warning: This episode contains mentions of contemplating suicide.

Things to consider

• Our minds can provide us with entirely new thinking, and allow us to see a set of circumstances in a totally new way.
• We don’t have all the answers, but we can ask people for help.
• Stories can help us wake up to our own thinking, and change it.

Links

• Conservation Without Borders
• Sacha’s Wikipedia entry
• Flight of the Ospreys – BBC Radio 4