This podcast covers Te Reo Māori and Tikanga expert Jeremy Tātere Macleod. We uncover his journey within learning the language and some of the challanges he faced. We speak about his involvement in the revitalisation of the Te Reo Māori within Aotearoa (New Zealand) and Ngāti Kahungunu (the tribe of Hawkes Bay). Finally we touch on his business kauwaka and his experience of Panekiritanga and learning under the great teachers Sir Tīmoti Karetu, Sir Pou Temara and Sir Te Wharehuia Mallory.