Our guest is Jared Duran, a poet, publisher, podcaster, and composer of our theme song, which was partially inspired by one his favorite R.E.M. songs, Strange Currencies, which he brings to us for discussion. The theme for this episode is the music of the TV show "The Bear," which features three R.E.M. songs. Chris chooses "Half a World Away" to talk about, while Will picks "Oh My Heart."

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Our theme music is composed by Jared Duran