Are your goals helping you adapt—or just perform?

In this episode of Strategy Meets Reality, Radhika Dutt joins Mike Jones to expose the hidden trap of OKRs and KPI-led management. Drawing on her latest work and the OHL Toolkit, Radhika introduces a radical shift: move from setting performance targets to setting puzzles.

They explore how metrics create fragility, why freedom of action matters, and how to scaffold real learning without losing direction. From military concepts to corporate leadership, this is a sharp critique of goal setting gone wrong—and a practical alternative for those ready to rethink success.

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🔍 In this episode:

• Why OKRs often create performance theatre
• Puzzle setting vs puzzle solving
• How scaffolding enables experimentation
• Freedom of action without losing control
• Rethinking what good leadership looks like
• The danger of mistaking metrics for outcomes

🎧 Keywords: OKRs, KPIs, leadership, complexity, adaptability, performance theatre, puzzle mindset, experimentation, scaffolding, radical product thinking, Radhika Dutt

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Most nonsense in organisations isn’t malicious—it’s magnetic.

In this episode of Strategy Meets Reality, Mike Jones is joined by Paul Sweeney—author of Magnetic Nonsense: A Short History of Bullshit at Work—to unpack the rituals, myths, and illusions that derail progress inside organisations.

They dive into the dangers of detached leadership, the myth of heroic CEOs, and why so many change programmes fail before they begin. From performance theatre and wellbeing platitudes to the real impact of meetings, Paul exposes how nonsense embeds itself in culture—and what it takes to replace it with something better.

🔍 In this episode:

• Why magnetic nonsense is so attractive—and so hard to spot
• The gap between executive fantasy and frontline reality
• How buzzwords and best practices become blockers
• The illusion of change and the truth about transformation
• What critical thinking really looks like in leadership
• The importance of autonomy and design that fits reality

🎧 Keywords: Critical Thinking, Leadership, Culture, Organisational Nonsense, Change, Strategy Execution, Transformation, Autonomy, Corporate Myths

📘 Learn more about Paul’s book: Magnetic Nonsense

📬 Connect with Paul: Paul Sweeney on LinkedIn

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Antifragile is more than a buzzword—it’s a design principle.

In this episode of Strategy Meets Reality, Mike Jones sits down with Janka Krings-Klebe—author of The Antifragile Organization—to explore what it means to design organisations that thrive under stress. They unpack why most governance systems constrain innovation, how financial incentives can block adaptability, and why autonomy and accountability must go hand in hand.

From ecosystem design to cultural enablers, this is a practical look at what it takes to shift from hierarchies to ecosystems—where learning, change, and resilience are not afterthoughts, but built into the DNA.

🔍 In this episode:

• Why fragility is baked into most governance and budgeting models
• How antifragile organisations navigate market disruption
• Designing autonomy and accountability together
• What value stream thinking means in practice
• The role of learning, culture, and failure in adaptability
• Why the shift is from stability to direction, not control

🎧 Keywords: Antifragility, ecosystem organisation, governance, budgeting, innovation, adaptability, autonomy, learning, organisational design

📘 Learn more about Janka’s work: https://www.co-shift.com/

 📕 Read her book: The Antifragile Organization (Amazon)

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Cybersecurity isn’t just about protecting data—it’s about enabling execution under pressure.

In this episode of Strategy Meets Reality, Mike Jones is joined by Glenn Wilson—cybersecurity expert, OODA loop practitioner, and founder of Dynaminet—to explore how the challenges of security mirror those of strategy. From technical debt to tool overload, commander's intent to learning loops, they unpack how poor decision-making, misaligned incentives, and lack of feedback erode both resilience and execution.

This is not a technical talk. It’s a strategy conversation about where things break—and what to do about it.

🔍 In this episode:

• Why strategy and cybersecurity face the same execution challenges
• The hidden cost of technical debt and over-engineering
• Why developer voice matters for resilience and tooling
• Using OODA and chaos engineering to build adaptive responses
• What commander's intent looks like in security
• How to embed security without killing innovation or joy

🎧 Keywords: Strategy Execution, Cybersecurity, OODA Loop, Technical Debt, Developer Experience, Chaos Engineering, Mission Command, Distributed Decision-Making, Leadership, Resilience

📘 Learn more: https://dynaminet.com

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Most strategy documents belong in a drawer. Real strategy is lived, spoken, and constantly adapted.

In this episode of Strategy Meets Reality, Mike Jones is joined by Professor Donald MacLean—physicist, strategist, and founder of Strategy Story—to unpack what makes strategy real, why we confuse it with policy and vision, and how governance is quietly killing adaptability.

Donald shares why strategy is emotional before it’s intellectual, why leadership is about enabling sensemaking, and why conversation—not control—is the engine of execution.

🔍 In this episode:

• Why real strategy is spoken, not written
• The difference between policy, vision, and strategy
• Why governance often strangles adaptability
• The human side of strategic commitment
• How to re-personalise strategy without dumbing it down
• What Clausewitz, Sun Tzu, and football managers have in common

🎧 Keywords: Emergent Strategy, Governance, Strategic Execution, Complexity, Systems Thinking, Organisational Design, Engagement, Clausewitz, Storytelling, Open Strategy

📬 Connect with Donald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/professordonaldmaclean/

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Most strategy frameworks promise clarity—but what happens when there is no map?

In this episode of Strategy Meets Reality, Mike Jones is joined by Elsa Henderson—consultant, facilitator, and PhD researcher on “wayfinding” in complexity. Drawing on her work with impact networks and her doctoral research into real-world leadership practice, Elsa explores what it means to make decisions, build strategy, and lead effectively when the future is unclear.

They unpack why traditional navigation fails in dynamic environments, why capacity matters more than capability, and how the aesthetics of leadership—the felt experience—shape what we notice, trust, and act on. It’s a rich, grounded conversation for leaders rethinking how strategy and sensemaking really work in practice.

🔍 In this episode:

• What wayfinding means—and why it matters in strategy
• The difference between capability and capacity in leadership
• Why frameworks are only useful if you can adapt them
• Practical wisdom and anticipatory capacity in action
• The emotional and aesthetic dimension of leadership decisions
• Rethinking time, identity, and feedback in organisational change

🎧 Keywords: Wayfinding, Strategy, Capacity, Complexity, Anticipatory Capacity, Practical Wisdom, Leadership, Dynamic Environments, Change, Sensemaking, Aesthetics, Tacit Knowledge, Adaptation

📬 Connect with Elsa: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elsa-henderson-48b720132/

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Most organisations measure success by profit. Hunter Hastings says that’s the wrong compass.

In this episode of Strategy Meets Reality, Mike Jones is joined by Hunter Hastings—strategist, author, and leading voice in systems thinking—to challenge the way businesses define and deliver value. They unpack why profit maximisation blinds leaders to opportunity, how autonomy unlocks creativity, and why removing barriers is the real work of leadership.

From shifting the paradigm away from efficiency to focusing on effectiveness, to breaking down the power structures that stifle action, this episode offers a practical roadmap for leaders who want to organise for adaptability and meaningful impact.

🔍 In this episode:

• Why value creation should drive strategy—not profit targets
• How autonomy fuels speed, creativity, and innovation
• The limits of efficiency as a business strategy
• Rethinking power dynamics in modern management
• Removing barriers to action across the organisation
• Why systems thinking is essential in a boundaryless business world

🎧 Keywords: Systems Thinking, Value Creation, Autonomy, Organisational Design, Leadership, Efficiency vs. Effectiveness, Power Dynamics, Strategy, Adaptability, Empowerment

📘 Learn more about Hunter: Hunter’s LinkedIn

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Planning isn’t about precision—it’s about possibility.

In this episode, Mike Jones is joined by Johan Ivari—Swedish Armed Forces officer, lecturer at the Swedish Defence University, and author of A Set-Based Approach: Searching for the Problem–Solution Eclipse. Together, they explore how strategy and execution can remain viable in a world shaped by unpredictability and complexity.

Johan challenges the illusion of control, unpacks why detailed plans often collapse on contact with reality, and explains how the set-based approach protects adaptability by expanding options, not narrowing them. From mission command and viable systems to cognitive agency and feedback loops, this episode is a rich exploration of thinking, learning, and leading in real time.

🔍 In this episode:

• Why narrative—not metrics—should lead execution
• The danger of detailed plans and false certainty
• How viable systems enable distributed action and coherence
• Why leaders must protect their organisation’s capacity to act
• The value of affordances and ‘coarse’ planning
• Why set-based planning improves decision quality and learning

🎧 Keywords: Set-Based Planning, Viable Systems, Mission Command, Complexity, Strategy Execution, Feedback Loops, Agency, Command and Control, Adaptive Leadership

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Leadership is no longer about maintaining the old—it’s about shapeshifting into the new.

In this episode of Strategy Meets Reality, Mike Jones is joined by Louise Le Gat, creator of the purpose-led roadmap, to explore how leaders must evolve in the face of global disruption, systemic shifts, and societal transformation.

Louise challenges us to stop being good soldiers of the status quo and become brave builders of the future. From mental model upgrades to organisational reinvention, this is a deep dive into the inner and outer shifts leaders must make to shape what comes next.

🔍 In this episode:

• Why we’re still acting like we’re safely in port—but we’re already in the storm
• The move from control to coherence, from managing to shaping
• How imagination and purpose redefine value in uncertain times
• Dismantling survival mechanisms and embracing uniqueness
• The inner system shifts that must accompany outer change
• Creating spaces for intrapreneurial agility and reinvention

🎧 Keywords: Leadership, System Shifts, Mental Models, Purpose-Led, Inner Work, Shapeshifting, Reinvention, Positive Impact, Complexity, Legacy Leadership

📘 Learn more about Louise’s work: https://www.louiselegat.com/
📬 Connect with Louise: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louiselegat

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Engagement isn’t a soft skill—it’s a strategic advantage.

In this episode of Strategy Meets Reality, Mike Jones is joined by Marcus Dimbleby—former RAF, red teaming expert, and founder of Effective Direction—to explore how critical thinking and challenge cultures sharpen execution in complex environments.

Marcus explains why most organisations suffer from self-inflicted complexity, why outputs are mistaken for outcomes, and how empowerment without clarity or capability leads nowhere. From psychological safety to adaptive planning and human-led strategy, this is a grounded conversation on execution that works under pressure.

🔍 In this episode:

• Why red teaming unlocks the best ideas—not just hierarchy-approved ones
• The ROI of engagement and the real cost of quiet quitting
• Why complexity isn’t the enemy—but confusion is
• How psychological safety enables challenge, not comfort
• The problem with planning theatre and faux empowerment
• Critical thinking as the foundation of execution

🎧 Keywords: Red Teaming, Strategy Execution, Critical Thinking, Leadership, Organisational Complexity, Psychological Safety, Empowerment, Engagement, Mission Command, Organisational Design

📘 Learn more about Marcus’s work: https://www.effectivedirection.com/
📬 Connect with Marcus: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcusdimbleby

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