In this conversation, Dr. Ariel Bierbaum, Associate Professor of Urban Studies and Planning at the University of Maryland, discusses the intersection of urban studies, planning, and public education, emphasizing the importance of integrating schools into community planning. She shares her unique upbringing , her career path, and the challenges of school closures, particularly in marginalized neighborhoods. The discussion highlights the need for community engagement, the impact of demographic changes, and the role of storytelling in bridging gaps between planners and communities. Dr. Bierbaum advocates for political action and collective resilience in addressing the complexities of urban development and educational justice and is the author of the newly released book, "Schools for Sale: Disinvestment, Dispossession, and School Building Reuse in Philadelphia."