It doesn't get much cooler than zooming in from some 20 stories high above the Las Vegas strip on the morning after the first night of the tour! But whatever the backdrop, it's always great talking to singer, songwriter and multi instrumentalist, Katie Cole about her music. Katie talks so openly and is always ready to help deconstruct songwriting in an accessible way. We talked about her fantastic EP “Rivers & Roads” and what it was like trying to get it funded via a Kickstarter campaign. We covered all sorts of other things too from earliest memories listening to vinyl records with her mum, to chasing dreams, adulting and finding time to work on her solo career alongside being a part of The Smashing Pumpkins. Plus, we found out what really does happen when you mix red and white together in an attempt to make rosé!