Voddie Baucham, the Founders movement, the SBC floor fights over critical race theory—Tom Ascol has been in the middle of it for decades. In this conversation, Kevin and Tom remember Voddie’s courage and ministry, then turn to the deeper question: Why have so many leaders buckled when the culture pushed back?

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