BABS

Struggling, with a guest star (!) who invites BABS to a live show and shares why she wants everyone to know We Are Enough


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This is a super special episode (!!) because Amanda and Sam invite their first ever guest onto the podcast. Gail, owner of the event planning business Spoonful of Sunshines, invited BABS to speak at their first ever live show (!!), taking place at a festival in Palm Springs in January 2026 called We Are Enough (https://www.spoonfulofsunshines.com/weareenough). In return, Gail shares her story in this episode and how it birthed the idea for the We Are Enough festival.


Gail went to college with Amanda and Sam and even planned Amanda's wedding (oop!). But unbeknownst to college Amanda and Sam who saw Gail as a literal ray of sunshine and positivity, Gail was struggling to live up to her immigrant parents' dreams as she stared at an F on her midterm in the pouring rain and realized she wasn't going to be pre-med. She turned to partying to try and hide how lost she felt.


Post-graduation, Gail followed her love of food into the hospitality industry, but a couple pivotal moments - including the tragic loss of her cousin - changed the course of Gail's life and helped her discover her purpose in life... to help people talk about emotions, destigmatize mental health, and help everyone realize that We Are Enough.



*Trigger warning: This episode does talk about suicide, so please listen with extreme self-care or avoid if those thoughts are triggering.*


Disclaimer:  We are NOT mental or physical health specialists. If you believe you or someone you know is struggling with anxiety, depression, or suicidal ideation, or any other mental health challenges we encourage you to contact your doctor or a medical professional. If you or someone you know is in crisis, please call the Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 988, call 911, or go to your local emergency room. For resources on eating disorders, visit https://edrcsv.org/get-help/.


For a great resource to help with understanding depression and anxiety, and advice on how to help and what to say, check out one of our favorites, @realdepressionproject on Instagram.

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BABSBy Amanda Chang