Studio Twentyone: A Bitcoin Design Show

Studio Twentyone: A Bitcoin Design Show

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Studio Twentyone: A Bitcoin Design Show episodes

  • 10. Joshua Philippe – Fold: Foundational design thinking, cross-functional leadership, and bitcoin company evolution

    In this episode of the Studio Twentyone Show, Sahil walks through the hills of San Francisco with Joshua Philippe, Head of Design at Fold. Joshua shares his remarkable journey from aspiring oil painter to leading design at major Bitcoin companies like BitMEX, Strike, and now Fold. They discuss his unconventional path through poverty, agency life, the wild days at BitMEX, and how he's orchestrating complete rebuilds of both Strike and Fold's brands and products.

    🔍 What you'll learn in this episode:

    • Joshua's journey from art school dropout to head of design at major Bitcoin companies
    • How financial crisis and government seizure led him to Bitcoin sovereignty
    • The wild stories from BitMEX's money-printing heyday in Hong Kong
    • Building design systems and leading rebrands at Strike and Fold
    • The art of "orchestrating" cross-functional teams as a design leader
    • Why networking with VCs and business people beats networking with designers
    • How to rebuild entire products and brands from the ground up
    • The importance of taste development and exposure to great work

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    Connect with Joshua:

    • Twitter: https://x.com/shualippa
    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuaphilippe/

    Connect with Me:

    Background image credits: Jason Marder https://jtrain.studio/

    Timestamps

    00:00 Introduction to the Studio Twentyone Show

    01:00 Joshua's pivot from law to studio art

    02:13 Early design struggles and Craigslist jobs

    07:16 Agency life and brand strategy fundamentals

    09:15 Eight Inc experience on Apple and Tiffany projects

    11:18 Eames host-guest design philosophy

    13:04 Government bank seizure and Bitcoin discovery

    16:02 Transition from agency to crypto/tech

    18:35 Learning React Native as a designer

    25:26 Moving from BitMEX to Strike

    27:21 Stepping into head of design role

    29:31 Working with superior talent and team orchestration

    32:09 Strike's turnaround and design efficiency

    35:08 Joining Fold and complete product rebuild

    39:52 Organizing 200+ scattered Figma files

    41:37 Brand summit and strategic foundation work

    43:06 Agency selection for Fold rebrand

    45:35 Information architecture and product strategy

    47:53 Brand as competitive differentiator

    48:10 Networking advice for designers

    50:30 Taste development and exposure to great work

    53:22 Advice on patience with rebrands

    55 min
  • 09. Skyler: Foundational brands for bitcoin startups, research > intuition, and more

    In this episode of the Studio Twentyone Show, Sahil walks with Skyler, founder of Finite Supply, a Bitcoin design agency. Skyler shares his journey from graphic design student to optimization specialist at companies like Walmart Labs, Kraken, and Fedi, before launching his own agency. They discuss the importance of research-driven design, the art of branding, and Skyler's philosophy of "Socratic design."


    🔍 What you'll learn in this episode:

    • Skyler's journey from graphic design school to Bitcoin design agency founder

    • How early exposure to A/B testing shaped his scientific approach to design

    • The philosophy of "Socratic design" and seeking truth in product development

    • Why research and user observation matter more than designer opinions

    • The process of creating foundational brand identities for Bitcoin companies

    • How to develop taste and craftsmanship as a designer

    • Building scalable brand systems for early-stage companies

    • The future of human-computer interaction and AI delegation


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    Connect with Skyler:

    • Twitter: https://x.com/skyler_fs?lang=en

    • Website: https://finitesupply.co/

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/skylerwestby


    Connect with Me:

    Timestamps:

    00:00 Introduction to the Studio Twentyone Show 

    01:20 Skyler's early design journey and education 

    02:36 Learning HTML and web development in design school 

    03:24 The important internship requirement project 

    04:12 Discovery of A/B testing and quantifiable design 

    05:16 The philosophy of "Socratic design" 

    06:22 Research vs opinion in Bitcoin design decisions 

    07:30 Walking through Vegas and design conversations 

    09:01 The mortuary rebranding project from college 

    09:28 Transition from optimization to product design 

    10:02 Working at Aspiration and discovering Bitcoin 

    11:22 The fulfillment of measurable design impact 

    12:23 Newsletter break 

    12:34 Applying optimization thinking to Bitcoin companies 

    14:20 The easy sell of value-based design improvements 

    15:17 What Skyler loves about running Finite Supply 

    16:22 No boss, fewer meetings, and creative freedom 

    17:07 22+ clients and foundational brand work 

    17:32 Dealing with quality concerns and imposter syndrome 

    19:25 Product work and cleaning up "vibe coded" UIs 

    21:04 Managing growth and saying yes to too much 

    22:12 The Bitcoin network effect for designers 

    23:15 Brand project process and client discovery 

    24:47 Using AI for word definition exploration 

    25:09 The Bitcoin Bond Company branding story 

    27:03 How clients become friends through collaboration 

    28:08 Making brands scalable for non-designers 

    30:23 Living out brand principles beyond visuals 

    31:16 Whether taste can be learned or is innate 

    33:05 Developing taste through physical craftsmanship 

    34:09 The command-Z impulse in leather work 

    35:09 Newsletter break 

    35:27 How Skyler discovers design inspiration 

    37:38 Limiting Twitter consumption with ARC browser 

    38:16 Sahil's disciplined social media workflow 

    39:48 Looking ahead: building for American workers 

    41:21 Solutions in search of problems vs real pain points 

    43:15 The vision for reducing human-computer interaction 

    44:30 Delegating robot tasks to actual robots 

    45:00 Closing thoughts and future conversations


    Background image credits: Jason Marder https://jtrain.studio/

    46 min
  • 08. Courtny Cotten: Leading design teams through the AI revolution

    In this episode of the Studio Twentyone Show, Sahil walks with Courtny Cotten, a design leader who has worked at major tech companies including Microsoft and Stack Overflow. With a strong background in visual design and leadership, Courtny shares insights from his career journey, discusses the evolution of design tools, and explores how AI is transforming the design industry.


    🔍 What you'll learn in this episode:

    • Courtny's journey from art student to design leader at major tech companies

    • How gaming inspired his passion for digital experience design

    • The evolution from traditional graphic design to modern UX/UI practices

    • How AI tools are transforming the design industry and empowering designers

    • Practical tips for becoming a more effective design leader

    • The convergence of product design and front-end engineering roles

    • How to use AI as a designer's superpower rather than a threat


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    Resources & Tools Mentioned in the Episode:

    • Figma (including Figma Beta AI features): https://www.figma.com/

    • Adobe Illustrator: https://www.adobe.com/in/products/illustrator.html

    • v0 (by Vercel): https://v0.dev/

    • ChatGPT: https://openai.com/

    • Grok: https://grok.com/

    • Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/

    • Blue Cyclops Design Agency: https://bluecyclops.com/

    • Design Break Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-design-break/id1451267703


    Connect with Courtny:

    • Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/courtnycotten/

    • Twitter: https://x.com/courtnycotten


    Connect with Me:

    Timestamps:

    00:00 Introduction to the Studio Twentyone Show 

    01:09 Courtny's career journey and background 

    02:17 Early apprenticeship in graphic design 

    05:19 Transition from print to digital and mobile design 0

    7:05 Experience at Stack Overflow and developer tooling 

    09:08 AI design tools discussion begins 

    10:24 Sahil's recent AI workflow transformation 

    13:26 AI for divergent thinking in design 

    15:54 The convergence of product design and engineering roles 

    20:15 Ethical questions about AI copying creative styles 

    24:04 New Figma Beta AI features 

    28:13 Using AI for better employee feedback and reviews 

    30:17 Effective leadership principles 

    33:35 Excitement about AI comparable to discovering Bitcoin 

    36:39 "Reflexive AI use" concept 

    38:40 Closing and request for feedback



    Background image credits: Jason Marder https://jtrain.studio/


    40 min
  • 07. John Magill from Zaprite: Building a design-first bitcoin startup

    In this episode of the Studio Twentyone Show, Sahil walks with John Magill, founder and CEO of Zaprite, to explore his journey from traditional graphic design to building a Bitcoin payment platform. John shares insights from his background in art, his transition to digital design, and how he built Zaprite from the ground up.


    🔍 What you'll learn in this episode:

    • John's path from art school to Bitcoin entrepreneurship

    • How freelance design led to creating a Bitcoin payment solution

    • Building an MVP as a non-developer and raising funding

    • Balancing the roles of CEO and designer at a growing startup

    • Managing feature requests while maintaining product vision


    🔗 Subscribe for more content on Bitcoin and product design from the Studio Twentyone Show!


    Connect with John:

    • Twitter: https://twitter.com/john_zaprite

    • Website: https://zaprite.com/


    Connect with Me:

      Web: https://sahilc.com/

    Timestamps:

    00:00 Introduction to the Studio Twentyone Show

    00:34 Meeting John Magill from Zaprite

    01:03 Bitcoin Community in Austin

    01:36 John's Approach to Digital Privacy

    02:11 The Economics of Social Media

    03:36 Early Freelance Design Career

    04:47 Artistic Background and Education

    09:03 Transitioning from Industrial Design to Graphic Design

    12:14 Design Nature vs. Nurture Debate

    14:00 The Origin Story of Zaprite

    17:16 Building the MVP with Nate's Help

    20:27 Design Consistency Through Growth

    21:39 Balancing CEO and Designer Roles

    24:23 Starting with Code as a Designer

    27:45 Working with Parker and Will

    31:08 AI Tools for Design

    34:16 Managing Customer Feature Requests

    40:52 QA Process and Feature Rollout

    44:16 The Linear Approach to Features

    48:38 Hot Takes on Collaborative Design

    51:18 Future Design Plans for Zaprite

    54:05 Closing Thoughts and Contact Information


    Background image credits: Jason Marder https://jtrain.studio

    55 min
  • 06. Stephen DeLorme from Voltage: Designing for lightning and open source bitcoin

    In this episode of the Studio Twentyone Show, Sahil walks with Stephen DeLorme from Voltage to explore the intersection of design, development, and Bitcoin. Stephen shares his journey from comic book artist to graphic designer to Bitcoin builder, and insights from his work on Lightning Network infrastructure.


    🔍 What you'll learn in this episode:

    • The evolution from traditional design to Bitcoin engineering

    • Approaches to building open source Bitcoin products

    • Using AI tools to accelerate design and development

    • Lightning Network's unique challenges and opportunities

    • How designers can start coding with modern tools


    🔗 Subscribe for more content on Bitcoin and product design from the Studio Twentyone Show!


    Connect with Stephen:

    • Website: https://d.elor.me/

    • Twitter: https://twitter.com/StephenDeLorme

    • Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephendelorme

    • Contact: [email protected]


    Connect with Me:

    Timestamps:

    00:00 Introduction to the Studio Twentyone Show00:40 Meeting Stephen DeLorme01:19 Stephen's Hackathon Success02:09 UX for the Streets Workshop06:35 Stephen's Background and Journey10:11 From Comic Books to Graphic Design13:23 Discovering Bitcoin and Spiral Grant15:10 B2B Experience and Bitcoin Design19:42 Working on the Bitcoin Design Guide24:27 Approaches to Open Source Design30:08 Lightning versus Other Layer 2 Solutions32:37 Voltage's Approach to Lightning Infrastructure36:30 Starting with Code for Designers40:57 Using AI Tools for Development44:47 AI's Impact on Design and Development Jobs49:05 Current Projects and Future Plans51:34 Closing Thoughts and Contact Information

    Background image credits: Jason Marder https://jtrain.studio/

    53 min
  • 05. Mia White: Designing bitcoin products as a freelancer

    In this episode of the Studio Twentyone Show, Sahil walks with Mia White to explore her journey from marketing to Bitcoin design and her experiences as an independent designer working with various Bitcoin companies.


    🔍 What you'll learn in this episode:

    • Transitioning from marketing to product design

    • Working with early-stage Bitcoin companies
    • The challenges of explaining Bitcoin concepts through UI
    • Being a "cowboy designer" in the Bitcoin space
    • Balancing freelance work with personal life

    🔗 Subscribe for more conversations on Bitcoin design and product development!


    Connect with Mia:

    • Twitter:https://x.com/mia_white21


    Connect with Me:

    Timestamps:

    00:00 Introduction to the Studio Twentyone Show 

    00:30 Meeting Mia White 

    01:14 Mia's Background in Business and Marketing

     02:57 Transition to Design During COVID 

    04:31 Online Design Education 

    06:20 Starting as a Freelancer in Bitcoin 

    08:05 Working with Engineering-Heavy Startups 

    10:34 Managing Design Process with Multiple Stakeholders 

    13:40 Using Secondary Research to Convince Teams 

    15:32 Freelance versus Full-Time Considerations 

    19:30 Challenges in Bitcoin Startups 

    20:46 Bitcoin Education and UX Challenges 

    23:35 Designing for Technical Constraints in El Salvador

     24:47 Copywriting and Website Design 

    27:36 Using AI Tools in Design 

    29:14 The Future of Designers with AI 

    31:35 Being a "Cowboy Designer" 

    33:17 Learning New Skills On-the-Go 

    34:51 Hot Takes on Bitcoin Companies 

    37:13 The Education Problem in Bitcoin Products 

    39:28 Staying Updated on Design Trends 

    40:57 Future of Bitcoin Design 

    44:30 Personal Growth and Balance 

    45:21 Closing Thoughts


    Background image credits: Jason Marder https://jtrain.studio/

    46 min
  • 04. Lee Gordon from Fold: Research-driven design in Bitcoin products

    In this episode of the Studio Twentyone Show, Sahil walks with Lee Gordon from Fold to explore the evolution of Bitcoin design and brand identity. Lee shares insights from Fold's recent redesign and his journey from creative writing to leading design at one of Bitcoin's most recognizable companies.

    🔍 What you'll learn in this episode:

    • How Fold approached their recent redesign as they prepare to go public

    • Managing design teams efficiently in Bitcoin companies

    • The role of research and customer feedback in product development

    • Building design systems that scale

    • Drawing inspiration from art and culture for Bitcoin products


    • 🔗 Subscribe for more content on Bitcoin and product design from the Studio Twentyone Show!


      Connect with Lee:

      • Twitter: https://x.com/leegordon

      • Nostr: https://primal.net/p/npub13wj709u2tdpflj83mxnlz507e54v0k78dzy0pe5prcukrpfnpdjsxnen3s

      • Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lanceleegordon


      • Connect with Me:

        • Twitter: https://x.com/SahilC0

        • Nostr: [email protected]/sahil

        • Web: https://sahilc.com/

        • Timestamps:

          00:00 Introduction to the Studio Twentyone Show

          00:20 Meeting Lee Gordon from Fold
          01:14 Lee's Journey into Design
          02:54 Path Through Agency World and Tech
          05:04 Experience at RGA and Other Companies
          08:03 Leadership and Individual Contributor Roles
          11:10 Design Philosophy at Fold
          14:17 Brand Evolution and Redesign Process
          20:53 Working with Design Teams and Freelancers
          27:07 Research and Customer Feedback
          31:16 Design Systems and Efficiency
          34:08 Using AI for Research Insights
          39:24 Hot Takes on Design Industry
          42:05 Art and Design Inspiration
          46:47 Future of Bitcoin Design
          50:16 Personal Growth and Future Plans
          52:23 Closing Thoughts and Contact Information


          Background image credits: Jason Marder https://jtrain.studio/

          54 min
        • 03. Sasha Klein from Unchained: Bridging technical complexity and user experience in bitcoin

          In this episode of the Studio Twentyone Show, Sahil walks with Sasha Klein from Unchained to explore the world of Bitcoin front-end development and design systems. Sasha shares his journey from English major to Bitcoin engineer and his unique perspectives on building user-friendly self-custody solutions.


          🔍 What you'll learn in this episode:

          The evolution from traditional web development to Bitcoin products

          How to balance technical requirements with user experience

          The importance of consistent design systems in Bitcoin products

          Building maintainable front-end architecture for complex applications

          Hot takes on animation, prototyping, and design trade-offs

          🔗 Subscribe for more content on Bitcoin and product design from the Studio Twentyone Show!


          Connect with Sasha:

          Twitter: https://x.com/sashafklein

          Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sasha-klein/


          Connect with Me:

          Twitter: https://x.com/SahilC0

          Nostr: [email protected]/sahil

          Web: https://sahilc.com/


          Timestamps:

          00:00 Introduction to the Studio Twentyone Show

          00:21 Meeting Sasha Klein from Unchained
          01:14 Sasha's Background and Harvard Years
          02:54 Transition into Programming through MOOCs
          04:06 Learning Ruby on Rails and Full Stack Development
          05:04 Experience at Design Consultancy
          08:03 Design Philosophy and Trade-offs at Unchained
          11:10 The Role of Animation in Design
          14:17 Domain Expertise in Bitcoin Products
          16:24 Balancing Customer Needs with Bitcoin Security
          20:27 UX and Visual Design Integration
          23:51 Evolution of Web Design Standards
          26:28 Design Systems and Component Libraries
          29:01 The Role of Prototyping
          32:35 AI in Development and Design
          37:06 Future of Tech Jobs
          39:24 Hot Takes on Design
          42:05 Managing Design Trade-offs
          46:47 Consistency and Code Quality
          50:16 Bitcoin Design Evolution
          54:19 Future of Bitcoin UX
          56:13 Real-world Bitcoin Payment Challenges
          57:05 Closing Thoughts and Contact Information


          Background image credits: Jason Marder https://jtrain.studio/

          58 min
        • 02. Erik Cativo from Hoseki, Cashu: Bitcoin Design and eCash UX

          Hey everyone! Sahil here, walking along a lake in Riga for today’s episode. I’m joined by Erik, a bitcoin designer who’s here to share his unique journey and insights from the world of UX and design.


          Episode Highlights:

          Exploring Riga & European Design: Erik shares his love for European architecture and city design, comparing it to the walkability and creativity-inspiring aesthetics of Stockholm, where he lives.

          Erik’s Path into Design: From dabbling with early digital design tools as a kid, customizing game graphics, and pirating Photoshop to eventually mastering UX—Erik has quite the unconventional, tech-centric backstory.

          Peer-to-Peer Influence on Bitcoin UX: Erik explains how his fascination with file-sharing communities naturally led to his interest in Bitcoin and designing peer-to-peer systems.

          Design Philosophy: We dive into what “good design” means to Erik—balancing functionality with user enjoyment, making sure even technical designs offer a seamless, pleasant experience.

          Challenges in eCash UX: Erik talks about his work with eCash, a protocol he’s passionate about, and the unique UX challenges it presents—like offline functionality and “pending” transactions that need intuitive design solutions.

          Hoseki and Institutional UX: Erik shares his experience with institutional design at Hoseki, where keeping it polished yet simple for a traditional finance audience is key.

          Design Inspiration from Solana & Beyond: Erik’s got a hot take—he’s learning design patterns from Ethereum and Solana’s fire UI/UX, proving that great design inspiration can come from all corners of the tech world.

          The Art of Explaining Design: We get into a candid chat about the challenges of articulating design choices to stakeholders and Erik’s journey to improve in this area.

          This episode is full of gems on navigating design with a user-first mindset while staying grounded in practicality. Whether you’re a designer, a dev, or just interested in the thought processes behind some of the products you use, you’re gonna love this conversation.


          Connect with Erik:

          Twitter: @uxerik_

          Website: uierik.com


          Connect with Me:

          Twitter:⁠ @Sahilc0⁠

          Web:⁠ sahilc.com⁠


          Don't Miss Out:

          If you’re in Austin, check out the Bitcoin Design Club that Paul and I host on the 4th Wednesday of each month. It’s where we connect with other designers, builders, and anyone passionate about Bitcoin design.

          Thanks for tuning in! If you enjoyed this episode, hit that subscribe button, and let’s keep this design conversation rolling. Peace!


          Background image credits:

          Jason Marder https://jtrain.studio/


          Timestamps:

          00:00 Introduction to the Studio 21 Show

          00:33 Exploring Riga and Personal Backgrounds

          03:33 Early Design Inspirations and Journey

          05:58 Combining Design with Bitcoin

          11:05 Institutional Design at Hoseki

          16:04 Challenges in eCash UX Design

          21:15 Exploring eCash Offline Functionality

          22:53 User Communication Challenges

          23:05 Design Philosophy: Truth vs. Abstraction

          24:35 Balancing User Feedback and Development

          26:37 Hot Takes on Design Prototyping

          29:18 Learning from Cutting-Edge Design

          33:17 The Culture of Cashew

          34:41 Challenges in Design Communication

          37:53 Final Thoughts and Wrap-Up

          40 min
        • 01. Paul Miller from Mutiny: Navigating UX challenges and personal responsibility in Bitcoin

          In this episode of the Studio Twentyone Show, Sahil chats with Paul Miller from Mutiny to dive deep into the world of Bitcoin product design. Paul shares his unique journey from being a web designer at 13 years old to becoming a key player in the Bitcoin ecosystem, working on projects like Voltage and Fedimint.

          🔍 What you'll learn in this episode:

          The challenges of designing intuitive Bitcoin UX for users.

          How to balance simplicity with the complexities of Bitcoin technology.

          The importance of iteration and progressive enhancement in product design.

          Why great UX for Bitcoin products is about more than just making things look pretty.

          Hot takes on the future of Bitcoin products and how designers can make Bitcoin more user-friendly.

          Paul offers candid insights into his design philosophy and the difficulties of delivering seamless user experiences in a space where technical complexity and user expectations clash. If you're interested in Bitcoin development, UX/UI design, or just curious about the behind-the-scenes of how Bitcoin products are created, this episode is a must-watch!

          🎧 Listen to the full episode to discover:

          Paul’s thoughts on what makes good design in Bitcoin.

          Why "better UX won’t be easy" and how it compares to relationships or fitness.

          The truth vs. abstraction debate in Bitcoin UX.

          🔗 Subscribe for more content on Bitcoin, product design, and tech from the Studio Twentyone Show!

          Connect with Paul:

          Twitter: @FuturePaul

          Upcoming Projects: Keep an eye out for some exciting B2B SaaS evolutions from Mutiny.

          Connect with Me:

          Twitter: @SahilC0

          Web: sahilc.com

          Don't Miss Out:

          If you’re in Austin, check out the Bitcoin Design Club that Paul and I host on the last Thursday of each month. It’s where we connect with other designers, builders, and anyone passionate about Bitcoin design.

          Thanks for tuning in! If you enjoyed this episode, hit that subscribe button, and let’s keep this design conversation rolling. Peace!


          Timestamps:

          00:00 Introduction to the Studio Twentyone Show
          00:21 Meet Paul Miller from Mutiny
          00:44 Casual Walk and Talk in Austin
          01:02 Discussing the Concept of Design
          03:52 Paul's Journey from Web Developer to Journalist
          06:15 The Essence of Design and Creativity
          09:44 Integrating Design and Problem Solving
          15:33 Paul's Early Design Influences
          20:33 Challenges in Designing Bitcoin Products
          22:59 The Importance of User Experience in Bitcoin
          27:19 The Value of Health and Relationships
          27:33 Effort and Consequences in Health and Wealth
          29:12 Building for Different Audiences
          29:34 The Mutiny Team's Decision
          31:03 Bitcoin and User Responsibility
          32:30 The Evolution of the Internet and Bitcoin
          34:02 Designing for Truth vs. Abstraction
          37:36 Challenges in Bitcoin Payment Methods
          42:01 Learning and Inspiration in Design
          50:16 Final Thoughts and Wrap-Up


          Background image credits: Jason Marder https://jtrain.studio/

          56 min

        About Studio Twentyone: A Bitcoin Design Show

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        Studio Twentyone Show is the podcast for real conversations with innovators, designers, and builders shaping Bitcoin products. Hosted by Sahil, each episode dives into Bitcoin UX, product development,…