This episode is a conversation with Dr. Rob Gilbert. He is a distinguished professor of Sports Psychology at Montclair State University in New Jersey.

Dr. Gilbert is also a renowned motivational speaker and author. 

His "Success Hotline" has been going strong for thirty years. Each day he records a new motivational or inspirational message for his thousands of loyal listeners. Call (973) 743-4690 to reach the Success Hotline.

I have known Dr. Gilbert for twenty years. He is a legend.

Success Hotline is also available as a podcast on Apple: 

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/success-hotline-with-dr-rob-gilbert/id1532154557