<p>In the penultimate episode of 2024, Suman Gopinath makes a return with our guest of honor, Theresa Ramsey, who is a principal designer for DevOps and AI at IBM. We define "design thinking", discuss the in's and out's of design, what goes in to designing things and more. </p>

In the penultimate episode of 2024, Suman Gopinath makes a return with our guest of honor, Theresa Ramsey, who is a principal designer for DevOps and AI at IBM. We define "design thinking", discuss the in's and out's of design, what goes in to designing things and more.

Suman and Theresa talk Design Thinking

Listen in as Chris Sayles and David Rice talk with Z DevOps experts how IBM is embracing open source technologies, making the mainframe more accessible, and designing new and better ways of developing and operating for the cloud-native and veteran community.

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