This is bound to be the summer of vaccines and variants, as the world tries to recover from the pandemic. So I decided to check in with some Oregon based experts, for their thoughts, and predictions, about what comes next. And they're all saying, a lot of it all hinges on those who have NOT gotten vaccinated... the firm 15% of people out there who say they will not get the shots. Experts included in this podcast are Oregon State University Professors Aimee Huff, Courtney Campbell, Chunhuei Chi, Daniel López-Cevallos, Brett Tyler and Oralia Mendez from OSU's Center for Health Innovation