Nicole talks to the luminous Michelle de Kretser about her novel "Scary Monsters," which explores the impact of migration in two very different and individual stories, read from different ends of the book. They discuss themes of racism, misogyny and agesim as well as Michelle's choice to play with the novel's physical form, as a way of recreating the same sense of displacement and disorientation in the reader, as experienced by those migrating to a new land.