Every season, a few interviews need just a bit more space than we can fit into our regular format. When the full interview can't fit into one hour, we catch up in between seasons to give an unedited conversation.

Originally published as one of two interviews for our episode on "Supporting Black Students and Families", we now bring you the extended conversation with Dr. Paris Wicker, Assistant Professor of Educational Leadership and Policy at the State University of New York at Buffalo in Buffalo, New York.