This week Mike and Liz bring on writer and pool enthusiast Aaron Ragsdale (amragsdale.substack.com) to discuss a hodgepodge of an episode of VeggieTales "Sumo of the Opera." They discuss black and white filmmaking, imperial Japan, The Mikado, and the Avatar movies. Mike and Liz get into the most heated debate they have ever gotten into in over 20 episodes, and it wasn't even over religion (unless you count Tolkien as religion, jury's still out.)