Drew Jones joins me today to discuss climate data and simulations that grab people’s attention and foster good decision-making on climate change. He shares the targets and changes we need to achieve climate goals. He reveals why science alone doesn’t make people change their minds about climate risks and how engaging people with games, workshops, and interactive climate simulations makes a more significant impact. Drew also discusses why we need a long-term vision where the actions we make today may take decades to have an impact on the climate.