Today Kumail and Emily have a chat with Edmund and Danielle McMillen. You might know Edmund as 1/2 of Team Meat and the creator of games like Super Meat Boy and The Binding of Isaac, you might know Danielle as the creator of plush toys for Edmund's games, and you might know them both from Indie Game: The Movie. It's like a regular double date as we discuss games, working at Game Stop, and living a life where you get to create things you love.