In this conversation, Faisal and Shelley discuss the concept of the Super Ego, which they define as an inner voice that is constantly critical and judgmental. Faisal explains that this voice can be damaging and misleading, often leading individuals to feel inadequate or deficient.

He suggests various ways to counteract this voice, such as cultivating anger against it, developing a sense of humor, and allowing oneself to feel hurt.

Faisal also discusses the importance of replacing the Super Ego with positive structures, such as the ethical kingdom, which spontaneously arises within individuals and resonates virtues and love. Faisal also warns against completely eliminating shame, arguing that a healthy sense of shame is necessary to prevent sociopathic behavior.