In this podcast, Gavin sits down with Phil Topham, the Executive Director of the FIEC, to share their passion to better support churches in the area of policy and governance. The Church Office is grateful for the support and funding it has received from the FIEC to enable The Church Office to continue to be a free resource for churches.

https://fiec.org.uk

https://fiec.org.uk/resources/how-to-do-nothing

https://fiec.org.uk/resources/the-ministry-of-administration