In this episode, Bob has a conversation with Dr. Alison Gillespie, assistant superintendent in White Bear Lake Area Schools about principals’ need for instructional leadership and how she led the development of White Bear Lake Schools plan to support them. She discusses the importance of creating a collaborative space for principals to learn from each other and using a new evaluation tool to provide a common language for instructional leadership. She also mentions the role of a principal coach in facilitating the process and how they track progress through individual check-ins for principal evaluation and development. Finally, she discusses the challenges and goals of driving professional development leadership capacity for principals.