In this episode, John and Zack sit down with Dan Mann to talk about the creative process and the similarities between shaping surfboards for Kelly Slater and designing highly functional tiny houses. We'll hear about Dan's own tiny house in Costa Rica and what traveling the world with his family taught him about minimalism.

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