Nate has a hidden gem here. It's neither Disney, not Pixar. They're penguins, but they're not from or of Madagascar. It's Surf's Up, which is gives us plenty to talk about with our kids, not least competitive and doing things for the joy of it. And somehow we end on Nate spluttering about Toy Story 4. The perfect end to Season 1.

Listen to James and Nate talking with Barry Cooper about the Monomyth on the Cooper and Cary Have Words podcast episode A Swing and a Myth.

The Gospel According to Pixar is available from Amazon UK here.

If you watched some movies with your kids and talked about it afterwards with this stuff in mind, how did it go? Go on. Tell us via [email protected]

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