Welcome to WITHIN, a contemplative segment of The Leader's Way Podcast that explores the

convergence of mental health, art, and spirituality through authentic conversations across

traditions about personal and collective transformation. In this inaugural episode, Brandon talks

with Joanna Penn, an award-winning New York Times and USA Today bestselling author,

whose latest book, “Pilgrimage: Lessons Learned from Solo Walking Three Ancient Ways,”

explores the rich themes of spirituality, mental health, and personal transformation. Tune in for

a conversation about the power of walking, writing, and leaning into the call on our hearts.

Host: Brandon Nappi

Guest: Joanna Penn

Production: Goodchild Media

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