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Nate Ross joins the Real Life Theology Podcast to explain why leaders must surrender to Jesus as their true success. Through personal stories (including a memorable baptism and a failed capital campaign), scripture from Acts and John 5, and practical leadership teaching, he shows how surrender — not effort or sacrifice alone — allows the Holy Spirit to move the church forward.

Ross urges leaders to stop relying on their own striving, "raise the sail" instead of rowing the boat, and speak boldly about Jesus. This short episode offers encouragement, biblical clarity, and a call to trust Jesus as the source of power and hope.