As the pandemic enters its third year, we consider the possibility that we will be living with the Covid-19 virus indefinitely. Today on the podcast host Frank Sesno talks to Dr. David Michaels, an epidemiologist and professor at  George Washington University’s Milken School of Public Health. He is also one of the longest serving heads of the Occupational Safety and Health Administration. Michaels and five other experts who advised Biden’s transition team, have called on President Biden to adopt an entirely new domestic pandemic strategy geared to better prepare us for what comes next.