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Nate and Robbie interview Edward Buckles Jr., a filmmaker and photographer based in New Orleans. Edward was 13 years old when Hurricane Katrina hit, and for nearly a decade he documented how the storm's lasting effects impacted the children in his community. The footage became the centerpiece of his award-winning HBO documentary, Katrina Babies.

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Links from today’s episode: 

• Watch Katrina Babies | HBO Max 
• The Solutionaries | Climate Docuseries by PMI & TIME Studios — Good Is the New Cool 

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Robbie and Nate cover the U.S. election and voter concerns, the NYC Marathon, and a tornado in Santa Fe, New Mexico, before settling the age-old question: who handles the heat better, the Brits or the Americans? 

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Links from today’s episode: 

• Gallup: The Issues Voters Say Matter Most This Midterm 
• Economic concerns top voter priorities for 2025 — survey | Philstar.com
• Evolution of Rooftop Solar Power in Damascus, Syria : r/GoogleEarthFinds
• The New York Times: How Race-Day Weather Can Make or Break Your Marathon Performance 
• Could Americans survive a British heat wave? 
  • Reddit: Could Americans survive a British heat wave?
  • Could Americans Survive a British Heatwave? | TikTok
  • Shane O'Reilly 🤠 (@shane.oreillyy) • Instagram photos and videos  

Timestamps: 

(00:00) Intro

(00:43) Election

(13:25) NYC Marathon

(18:27) Santa Fe Tornado 

(25:10) U.S. vs U.K. Heatwaves 

(33:18) Outro 

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Nate and Robbie talk with Aina Roca Barceló, Climate Adaptation Advisor at Médecins Sans Frontières (Doctors Without Borders), about how heat affects humanitarian operations, why one-size-fits-all guidance falls short, and why listening to communities is essential. 

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Links from today’s episode: 

• OYA - Clima Yaakaar| MSF South Asia 

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Robbie and Nate talk about cold weather fits and foods, how the Southern Hemisphere is preparing for extreme heat, and a new research paper about r/heat_prep. This episode will also feature more interviews from the Global Heat Forum in Bangkok, Thailand. 

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Links from today’s episode: 

• r/cold_prep
• How is the Southern Hemisphere preparing for extreme heat? : r/heat_prep  
• A super El Niño winter is coming and the first official forecast is in | CNN
• How online communities are reshaping heat preparedness - ScienceDirect
• Camping in Snowstorm With No Tent, No Sleeping Bag
• Exotic species appear off California thanks to an unusually strong El Niño | Reuters  
• Weather West - YouTube 

Timestamps

(00:00) Intro 

(01:00) Cold prep 

(13:41) Southern Hemisphere heat 

(20:23) El Niño

(25:22) r/heat_prep paper 

(31:16) Global Heat Forum interviews 

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Nate and Robbie give a recap of the Global Heat Forum in Bangkok, Thailand and Marcelo shares how he survived an unseasonably warm Chicago Marathon. The hosts also ponder what people did a century ago when it was incredibly hot. 

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Links from today’s episode: 

• Global Heat Forum
• Wtf just happened lol : r/ChicagoMarathon
• What did people do 100 years ago when it got over 100F? : r/heat_prep   

Timestamps: 

(00:00) Intro to the show 

(01:11) Global Heat Forum

(13:10) Dr. Jennifer Vanos interview

(16:16) Dr. Jason Lee interview  

(19:30) Dealing with a warm Chicago Marathon 

(33:23) Heat 100 years ago 

(42:22) Outro

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This week’s episode features a conversation Robbie had with Dr. Abderrezak Bouchama, the Chairman at the Department of Experimental Medicine at the King Abdullah International Medical Research Center. Dr. Bouchama talks about his experiences in Saudi Arabia treating heat illness during the Hajj, a sacred pilgrimage in Islam.  

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Timestamps: 

(00:00) Intro to the show

(03:52) Dr. Bouchama’s first experience working at a Hajj field hospital 

(08:11) Hajj background 

(12:56) On the ground experiences and heat exposure during the Hajj 

(15:28) Demographics of the Hajj pilgrims that are exposed to heat

(18:42) Heat resilience measures 

(22:24) Clothes that pilgrims wear and what the government provides to keep pilgrims cool 

(25:20) Temperatures during the Hajj

(27:14) Common conditions that cause hospitalizations

(31:44) Interview recap 

(34:48) Outro

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Robbie and Nate talk about the Super El Niño and how to prepare, reflect on their first year of working on the podcast, and share r/heat_prep insights.  

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Links from today’s episode: 

• MTA plans to beat the heat at sweltering subway stations with heat capture technology - Gothamist 
• FLOODLINES - Pioneer Works 
• The Super El Niño Is About to Unleash Weather Chaos. Get Ready Now. - The New York Times 
• What is El Niño, what causes it and can we reduce the risks?  - The Guardian

Timestamps 

(00:00) Intro to the show 

(00:38) Catching up and face masks 

(04:13) Hot subway platforms 

(11:28) Hurricane Polo hitting New Mexico 

(15:18) Pioneer Works FLOOLINES event 

(22:46) Nor’easter recording

(28:45) Super El Niño  

(34:50) Outro 

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Nate and Robbie talk about Climate Week NYC, a new song about heat that Robbie advised on and climate comedy and movies. The episode also features a discussion about emergency kits and the difference between bugging in and bugging out preparedness. 

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Links from today’s episode: 

• EARTHGANG | Cool Me Down (In The Studio) 

Timestamps: 

(00:00) Intro to the show

(00:30) Climate Week  

(08:06) EARTHGANG song and other climate songs 

(20:26) TED event and climate comedy 

(28:45) Emergency kits 

(41:38) Outro 

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Robbie and Nate talk about running in the heat, fan vests in Japan, cooling strategies from Spain and a group that brings together people affected by climate disasters. This episode also features our recurring “hot cross puns” segment. 

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Links from today’s episode: 

• I wear a fan jacket in Tokyo. Would people actually wear these where you live? : r/heat_prep
• it’s going to be 102 tmrw and i have classes 🫩 i need advice : r/heat_prep
• How a Series of Climate Disasters Connected a Group of Strangers - The New York Times   
• Fan with mister: https://www.instagram.com/p/DdRzQpxsQks/ 

Timestamps: 

(00:00) Intro to the show

(00:59) Running in the heat 

(08:13) r/heat_prep posts

(21:08) Extreme Weather Survivors

(27:12) Cooling strategies from Spain 

(35:30) Hot cross puns 

(37:55) Outro 

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Nate and Robbie discuss the tragic floods around the Nepal-Tibet border and reflect on what preparation means in the face of more frequent and extreme hazards.

Nate also shares some anecdotes from his son’s return to school, where students have been raising concerns about hot classrooms. 

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Links from today’s episode: 

• A Principal Saved 900 Students Before His School Was Washed Away in Nepal - The New York Times 

Timestamps: 

(00:00) Intro to the show

(00:37) Nepal floods 

(20:17) Hot classrooms 

(39:47) Outro