If you’re a full-time working parent who often feels like you just don't have time for this, I implore you to make time for this episode. 

Kate Reeves and Gemma Pranita are the powerhouse hosts of the viral podcast We Don’t Have Time For This and are today's guests on The Pay Off. They’re two childhood best friends who turned their time-poor, opinion-rich dynamic into a booming business.

We dive deep into the messy, glorious reality of working motherhood. Kate and Gemma share how they protected their friendship while building an empire, why they’re tired of being asked how they ‘juggle it all’ and their metrics for feeling rich in life. 

This chat is frighteningly relatable and is sure to give you a full body LOL. 

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