Gaby Dunn of Panoply's Bad With Money podcast joins us to share her own student loan story followed by a conversation between Bustle's Melissa Louis-Jacque and My Money, My Future's Ramona Ortega about money and women of color and Dani Fankhauser's story of how she paid off over $70,000 of debt in five years.

Get more of Gaby by listening to Panoply's Bad With Money With Gaby Dunn or following her on Twitter @gabydunn.

And please, go to My Money, My Future and learn more about Ramona's amazing program.

And check out Dani Fankhauser's book Shameless and find her on Twitter @danifankhauser.

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